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CN — LARRY ROMANOFF: 中国的DeepSeek和美国人工智能的犯罪世界 — 第二部分:回应

 



中国的DeepSeek和美国人工智能的犯罪世界

China’s DeepSeek and the Criminal World of American AI

第二部分:回应

Part 2 – The Response

By Larry Romanoff

拉里·罗曼诺夫

译文:珍珠

 

人人都称赞DeepSeek — Everybody Praised DeepSeek . . .

然后每个人都抨击它 — Then Everybody Bashed it . . .

中国窃取了OpenAI的所有数据。哦,不,等等 — China Stole All OpenAI’s Data. Oh, no, wait . . .

然后是中情局的网络攻击 — Then the CIA Cyber-Attacks ...

 

人人都称赞DeepSeek — Everybody Praised DeepSeek . . .

 

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Sam Altman, the CEO of OpenAI, said, “This will be the greatest technology humanity has yet developed”. Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella said the new DeepSeek model was both “super-impressive” and “super-efficient”, and the AI developments coming out of China needed to be taken “very, very seriously”. [1]French entrepreneur Arnaud Bertrand said, “There’s no overstating how profoundly this changes the whole game. And not only with regards to AI, it’s also a massive indictment of the US’s misguided attempt to stop China’s technological development, without which Deepseek may not have been possible…” [2]Political commentator Matt Bruenig posted on X that: “I have been extensively using Gemini, ChatGPT, and Claude for document summary for nearly a year. Deepseek is better than all of them at it. The chatbot version of it is free. Price to use [its] API is 99.5% below the price of OpenAI’s API. [3]

OpenAI首执行官Sam Altman表示:“这将是人类迄今为止开发的最伟大的技术。”。微软首席执行官萨蒂亚·纳德拉(Satya Nadella)表示,新的DeepSeek模型既“超级令人印象深刻”又“超级高效”,中国的人工智能发展需要“非常非常认真”地对待。[1] 法国企业家Arnaud Bertrand说:“这对整个游戏的改变有多么深刻,这一点毫不夸张。不仅在人工智能方面,这也是对美国试图阻止中国技术发展的误导的巨大控诉,没有它,深度搜索可能就不可能实现……”[2]政治评论员Matt Bruenig在X上写道:“近一年来,我一直在广泛使用Gemini、ChatGPT和Claude进行文档摘要。深度搜索比他们所有人都擅长。聊天机器人版本是免费的。使用API的价格比OpenAI的API低99.5%。[3]

 

Alexander Wang, CEO of ScaleAI said, “What we found was that DeepSeek, the leading Chinese AI lab, their models are actually the top performing or roughly on par with the best American models.” [4]Aravind Srinivas, CEO of Perplexity AI, said it’s a myth that Chinese are good only at copying, so that if we stop writing research papers in America, if we stop describing the details of our infrastructure architecture, and don’t open-source, China will never be able to catch up. But the truth is that … DeepSeek is so good that the American firms will copy it all.[5] More than 670 derivative models have already been created from DeepSeek, all around the world, and that is the power of open-source models. [6]

ScaleAI首席执行官Alexander Wang表示:“我们发现,中国领先的人工智能实验室DeepSeek的模型实际上是表现最好的,或者与最好的美国模型大致相当。”[4]困惑人智能席执行官Aravind Srinivas表示,中国人只擅长复制是一个神话,所以如果我们停止在美国撰写研究论文,如果我们停止描述我们基础设施架构的细节,不开源,中国将永远无法赶上。但事实是…DeepSeek太好,美国公司都会复制它。[5] DeepSeek已经在世界各地创建了670多个衍生模型,这就是开源模型的力量。[6]

 

Facebook (Meta) is integrating as much of DeepSeek as it can, into its own model. Mark Zuckerberg said, “Engineers are moving frantically to dissect DeepSeek and copy anything and everything we can from it. I’m not even exaggerating.” Amazon is offering it and also using and integrating it. Microsoft is hosting it on Azure, and even Nvidia is hosting DeepSeek R1 on its developer platform. One AI company said they had heard from many Fortune 500 companies who want to run DeepSeek and who are questioning whether they want to continue to pay OpenAI such high monthly fees when they could run DeepSeek themselves for free. [7]

脸书(Meta)正在尽可能多地将DeepSeek整合到自己的模型中。马克·扎克伯格说:“工程师们正在疯狂地剖析DeepSeek并从复制我们能复制任何东西。我甚至没有夸大词。亚马逊正在提供它,也在使用和集成它。微软正在Azure上托管它,就连英伟达也在其开发者平台上托管DeepSeek R1。一家人工智能公司表示,他们收到了许多希望运营DeepSeek的财富500公司的消息,这些公质疑他们是否愿意在可以免费运营DeepSeek的情况下继续向OpenAI支付如此高的月费。[7]

 

然后每个人都抨击它 — Then Everybody Bashed it . . .

 

“What is the West doing about this? They are playing the Tik-Tok card. If you can’t defeat them, discredit them. If that doesn’t work, raise national security concerns, and if even that fails, then just go ahead and ban them.”[8]

“西方对此做了什么?他们正在打抖音牌。如果你不能打败他们,如果这不作用引发国家安全担忧,如果这也失败了,那就继续禁止他们。”[8]

 

不能让共产党得到它 — Can’t let the Commies Have it

 

And that’s more dangerous because then they get to own the mindshare, the entire American AI ecosystem.

这更危险,因为这样他们就可以拥有整个美国人工智能生态系统的思想份额。

 

Sam Altman from OpenAI now claims “We worry a lot about authoritarian governments developing this… [having AI] in the wrong human hands” [9] Aravind Srinivas, the CEO of Perplexity AI, said “the most dangerous thing is that the Chinese have the best open-source model and all the Americans are now building on that. And that’s more dangerous because then they get to own the mindshare, the entire American AI ecosystem. [10]

OpenAI的Sam Altman现在声称,“我们非常担心威权政府开发这种技术……(将人工智能)掌握在错误的人手中”[9]Perplexity AI的首席执行官Aravind Srinivas说,“最危险的是,中国人拥有最好的开源模式,而所有美国人现在都在建立这种模式。危险,因为这样他们就可以拥有整个美国工智能生态系统思想份额[10]

 

国家安全 — National Security

 

The White House is looking into “national security” concerns with DeepSeek and, as the initial excitement subsided, US officials discovered “national security implications”, [11] which were so serious that the US Navy immediately banned the use of DeepSeek by any and all naval staff. [12] Italy said “the data of millions of Italians could be at risk”. Australia has told its citizens to “be very careful” when using the app; in other words, “Don’t use it.” Asked about national security concerns, Matt Sheehan, a fellow at the Carnegie Institute for Perpetual War, said “Yes, almost certainly”; whether their data is going to China, and could be accessed by the Chinese Communist Party. [13]

白宫正在调查DeepSeek的“国家安全”问题,随着最初的兴奋情绪消退,美国官员发现了“国家安全影响”,这是如此严重,以至于美国海军立即禁止任何和所有海军工作人员使用DeepSeek。[12] 意大利表示,“数百万意大利人的数据可能面临风险”。澳大利亚已告知其公民在使用该应用程序时“非常小心”;换句话说,“不要使用它。”被问及国家安全问题卡内基永久战争研究所研究员马特·希恩说:“是的,几乎可以肯定”;他们的数据是否会流向中国,以及中国共产党是否可以访问。[13]

 

图形处理单元(GPU)– Graphic Processing Units (GPUs)

 

Alexander Wang said, “The Chinese labs have more H100s (the most powerful GPUs) than people think. My understanding is that DeepSeek has about 50,000 H100s, which they can’t talk about, obviously, because it’s against the export controls the US has put in place.” [14]JP Morgan, Citibank and others have accused the Chinese firm of having as many as 50,000 GPUs instead of the 2,000 they claimed. [15]Elon Musk accused DeepSeek of lying about its breakthrough model. He says the Chinese company is lying about how many chips it has purchased. [16]Joseph Carlson, a self-styled AI investment expert, said, “I don’t believe you, DeepSeek. I think you spent a lot more money. There are rumors out there that they had 50,000 GPUs, which sounds a lot more reasonable.” [17]

Alexander Wang说:“中国实验室拥有的H100(最强大的GPU)比人们想象的要多。我的理解是DeepSeek拥有大约5万个H100,他们显然不能谈论,因为这违反了美国实施的出口管制。”[14]摩根大、花银行和其他公司指责这家中国公司拥有多达5万个GPU,而不是他们声称的2000个。[15] 埃隆·马斯克指责DeepSeek在其突破性模型上撒谎。他说,这家中国公司在购买了多少芯片的问题上撒谎。[16] 自称人工智能投资专家的Joseph Carlson说:“我不相信你,DeepSeek。我认为你花了更多的钱。有传言说他们有5万个GPU,这听起来更合理。”[17]

 

心理战;发送消息 — Psy-op; send a message

 

“It’s symbolic that DeepSeek released their first model on Christmas Day when the rest of us are celebrating…”

“DeepSeek在圣诞节发布了他们的第一个模型,而我们其他人都在庆祝,这具有象征意义……”

 

A few people were quick to say that DeepSeek was just “A CCP psy-op”, conducting economic warfare against the US, and making American AI unprofitable. [18] Alexander Wang from ScaleAI said, “It’s symbolic that DeepSeek released their first model on Christmas Day when the rest of us are celebrating…” [19] “China” released DeepSeek R1 on the very same day Trump was inaugurated, to “send a stern message” to the US government. [20]

一些人很快说DeepSeek只是“中共的一次心理战”,对美国进行经济战,使美国人工智能无利可图。[18] ScaleAI的Alexander Wang表示:“DeepSeek在我们其他庆祝圣诞节发布他们的第一模型具有象征意义……”[19]“中国”在特朗普就职的同一天发布了DeepSeek R1,向美国政府“发出严厉的信息”。[20]

 

便宜的中国,低质量 — Cheap China, low quality

 

“Investors are thinking there is more hype than substance in DeepSeek. DeepSeek has shown only that you can train a small model off a larger one. Deepseek hasn’t shown they are capable of training the next iteration.” [21] What does this mean? It is like saying that you can build a beautiful and perfect 2-story house, but that is irrelevant and useless because you haven’t proven you can build a 3-story house. American reasoning at its finest. Singapore Live TV said that DeepSeek may be “a viable solution for the lower end of the market but not for the higher end”. [22] This is called “damning with faint praise”.

“投资者认为DeepSeek的炒作多于实质。DeepSeek只表明你可以从一个更大的模型中训练一个小模型。DeepSeek还没有表明他们有能力训练下一个迭代。”[21]这意味着什么?这就像说你可以建造一座美丽而完美的两层房子,但这无关紧要,也毫无用处,因为你还没有证明自己可以建造一栋三层房子。美国推理最精彩。新加坡直播电视台表示,DeepSeek可能是“低端市场的可行解决方案,但不适用于高端市场”。[22]这被称为“以微弱的赞美谴责”。

 

总结?中国对一切事物都进行复制、窃取和撒谎 — Summary? China Copies, Steals, and Lies About Everything

 

Kevin O’Leary, Chairman O’Leary Ventures: “There’s a lot of skepticism about this DeepSeek product. A $6 million dollar price from the desk of a hedge fund manager; I don’t believe it. No one does. We are in a propaganda war, an economic war, a technological war with China. Very risky to put this stuff on your phones. What they did was to copy technology that was already existing. It was innovated in the United States. [23] Matt Sheehan, Carnegie Institute for Perpetual War, “We always need to take information with a grain of salt when it’s coming from China”. [24]

O’Leary Ventures董事长Kevin O’Leary:“人们对DeepSeek产品持怀疑态度。一位对冲基金经理的办公桌上有600万美元的价格;我不相信。没有人相信。我们正处于一场宣传战、经济战、与中国的技术战。把这些东西放在你的手机上是非常危险的。他们所做的就是复制已经存在的技术。这是在美国创新的。[23]卡内基永久战争研究所Matt Sheehan说:“当信息来自中国时,我们总是需要对它持保留态度”。[24]

 

评论 — Commentary

 

“China” released DeepSeek; “Beijing’s latest thrust”; “The Chinese Communist Party’s offensive”. What rubbish. It wasn’t “China” who created DeepSeek, and had nothing to do with either Beijing or the Chinese Communist Party. How dare the inscrutable Chinese release something during Christmas, when the Americans aren’t watching? American conspiracy theorists may be deeply disappointed to learn that nobody at DeepSeek gives a shit what is happening in Washington on any particular day.

《中国》发布DeepSeek;“北京的最新攻势”;“中国共产党的进攻”。什么垃圾。创建DeepSeek的不是“中国”,也与北京或中国共产党无关。当美国人不看的时候,中国人怎么敢在圣诞节期间发布东西呢?美国阴谋论者可能会非常失望地得知,DeepSeek没有人在乎华盛顿在任何一天发生的事情。

 

All of this contrary noise was just the daily China-bashing that occurs in the Western media: “If anyone from China said it, it cannot be true”. Of course, there is never any evidence presented; every dirty accusation against China is treated as fact – no evidence required. Data privacy and national security noise are nonsense, since DeepSeek can be downloaded and run on computers in the US, with no connection or contact with China.

所有这些相反的噪音只是西方媒体每天抨击中国的声音:“如果有中国人这么说,那就不可能是真的”。当然,从来没有任何证据;对中国的每一项肮脏指控都被视为事实,不需要任何证据。数据隐私和国家安全噪音都是无稽之谈,因为DeepSeek可以在美国的计算机上下载和运行,而无需与中国连接或联系。

 

China made awesome mobile phones and the US banned them. China made fantastic and inexpensive EV cars and the US banned them. China makes the best small drones in the world, so the US banned them. China made one of the most popular social media platforms in the world, and the US banned it. Now a Chinese company produced an amazing and inexpensive AI model, and already the US is looking for excuses to ban it.

中国制造了很棒的手机,美国禁止了它们。中国制造了物美价廉的电动汽车,美国禁止了它们。中国制造了世界上最好的小型无人机,所以美国禁止了它们。中国制造了世界上最受欢迎的社交媒体平台之一,美国禁止了它。现在,一家中国公司生产了一种令人惊叹且廉价的人工智能模型,美国已经在寻找借口禁止它。

 

If the US makes a breakthrough it’s a giant step for mankind, but if a Chinese firm makes a breakthrough, it’s a threat to the world’s national security. A small Chinese firm creates one AI model, and suddenly China wants to dominate the world. So much irrationality and hysterical nonsense. If the US were a person, it would be a 14-year-old girl.

如果美国取得突破这对人类来是一个巨大进步,但如果一中国公司取得突破,那将对世界国家安全构成威胁。一家中国小公司创建了一个人工智能模型,突然间,中国想要主宰世界。如此多的非理性和歇斯底里的胡说八道。如果美国是一个人,那将是一个14岁的女孩

 

另一方面 — On the Other Hand . . .

 

Gary Marcus, US university professor and AI expert, was asked if we can trust what DeepSeek has said. His response was that it’s very likely that what DeepSeek described, is correct. He said he read their papers, and it all makes sense, and their results have already been replicated by others. What they did is plausible; they worked harder on optimization than other people. DeepSeek did it in super-impressive fashion, and it is likely legitimate. [25]

美国大学教授、人工智能专家加里·马库斯(Gary Marcus)被问及我们是否可以相信DeepSeek所说的话。他的回应是,DeepSeek所描述的很可能是正确的。他说,他阅读了他们的论文,这一切都是有道理的,他们的结果已经被其他人复制了。他们所做的一切似乎是合理的;他们在优化方面比其他人更努力。DeepSeek以令人印象深刻的方式做到了这一点,这很可能是合法的。[25]

 

It doesn’t matter if it’s a Chinese government psy-op or not. The technological innovation is real, and having a model train itself through reinforcement learning is impressive. DeepSeek’s technical paper says clearly that the $6 million does not include costs associated with prior research on architectural algorithms. [26]DeepSeek’s research papers were so detailed in describing how they did what they did, and many companies have already reproduced their results, so there is no room for doubt that their claims were factual.

不管这是不是中国政府的心理战。技术创新是真实的,通过强化学习进行模型训练本身令人印象深刻。DeepSeek的技术论文明确指出,600万美元不包括与先前架构算法研究相关的成本。[26]DeepSeek的研究论文非常详细描述他们如何做,许多公司已经复制他们的结果,所以毫无疑问他们的说法是真实的。

 

中国窃取了OpenAI的所有数据。哦,不,等等 — China Stole All OpenAI’s Data. Oh, no, wait . . .

 

 

OpenAI went to the Financial Times with a complaint that DeepSeek may have used OpenAI’s data to train its model. They claimed they had seen “some evidence” of distillation which they “suspect” “may have come from” DeepSeek, but of course they declined to provide details of their evidence. But where did OpenAI obtain all the data to train its own model? It stole it from websites all over the world. Every website is copyrighted, and every country has copyright laws stating it is illegal to take all of the content from a website, then repackage and sell it commercially. Yet this is precisely what OpenAI did.

OpenAI向英国《金融时报》投诉称,DeepSeek可能使用了OpenAI的数据来训练其模型。他们声称,他们看到了蒸馏的“一些证据”,他们“怀疑”这些证据“可能来自”DeepSeek,但当然他们拒绝提供证据的细节。但是OpenAI哪里获得所有数据来训练自己的模型?它从世界各地网站窃取它。每个网站都有版权,每个国家都有版权法,规定从网站上获取所有内容,然后重新包装并进行商业销售是违法的。然而,这正是OpenAI所做的。

 

The truth is that OpenAI built their entire business on data they stole from everyone else.Sam Altman, the CEO of OpenAI, has admitted this many times, and Satya Nadella, the CEO of Microsoft, said that anything that can be accessed on the internet is in the public domain and can simply be taken by anyone who wants it. But it’s a felony crime if you do it to them. This is exactly the same as calling the police to report that someone stole a car from you, that you stole from someone else yesterday.

事实上,OpenAI的整个业务都建立在他们从其他人那里窃取的数据之上。OpenAI首席执行官Sam Altman多次承认这一点,微软首席执行官Satya Nadella表示,任何可以在互联网上访问的东西都是公共领域的,任何想要它的人都可以拿走。但如果你这样做,那就是重罪。这与报警报告有人偷了你的车,你昨天偷了别人的车完全一样。

 

“OpenAI pulled a fast one. They began accusing DeepSeek of copying their text. They say the Chinese company used OpenAI’s data to train their model, and OpenAI says they have the evidence although they refuse to release it – which means they don’t have it. “It is hard to miss the irony here. OpenAI is having a meltdown because someone may have done what they have been doing for years. [OpenAI] is a company that has been training on copyrighted material with no shame; books, news articles, music, Youtube videos. OpenAI has literally been ripping off other people’s work, so what’s the fuss about now? And this is not even a secret. OpenAI’s leadership has talked about it. Sam Altman himself has acknowledged it, so why are they playing the victim now? They should know that the copy-paste button works both ways.” [27]

“OpenAI迅速采取了行动。他们开始指责DeepSeek抄袭他们的文本。他们说,这家中国公司使用OpenAI的数据来训练他们的模型,OpenAI说,尽管他们拒绝发布,但他们有证据——这意味着他们没有证据。”很难忽视这里的讽刺意味。OpenAI正在崩溃,因为有人可能已经做了他们多年来一直在的事情。[OpenAI]是一毫不羞愧地在受版权保护的材料上进行培训公司;书籍、新闻文章、音乐、Youtube视频。OpenAI一直在抄袭别人的作品,那么现在有什么大惊小怪的呢?这甚至不是一个秘密。OpenAI的领导层已经谈到过Sam Altman自己也承认了这什么他们现要扮演受害者呢?他们应该知道复制粘贴按钮是双向的。”[27]

 

DeepSeek “stole” OpenAI’s Data? What makes you think it was OpenAI’s data in the first place? Why are we so obsessed with the possibility of Chinese companies stealing our data when American companies actually ARE stealing our data? Every website has a ‘sign’ that says you cannot take their content and use it for your commercial purposes without permission and payment. But it seems OpenAI didn’t see that sign, and stole all the data from millions of websites, without permission and without paying. Well, OpenAI, it seems that maybe DeepSeek missed seeing that sign on your website, too. [28]

DeepSeek“窃取”了OpenAI的数据?是什么让你认为这首先是OpenAI的数据?为什么我们如此痴迷于中国公司窃取我数据的可能性,而美国公司实际上正在窃取我们数据每个网站都有一个“标志”,说明未经许可和付款,您不能将其内容用于商业目的。但OpenAI似乎没有看到这个标志,并在未经许可和未付费的情况下从数百万个网站窃取了所有数据。好吧,OpenAI,DeepSeek似乎也错过了在你的网站上看到这个标志。[28]

 

But apparently not everyone sees the irony in this. David Sacks, White House AI and Crypto Czar: “There is substantial evidence that what DeepSeek did here is they distilled the knowledge out of OpenAI’s models, and I don’t think OpenAI is very happy about this. [29] [We need to] slow down some of these copycat models.” [30]

但显然不是每个人都看到了其中的讽刺意味。白宫人工智能和加密货币沙皇David Sacks:“有大量证据表明,DeepSeek在这里所做的是从OpenAI的模型中提取知识,我认为OpenAI对此并不满意。[29][我们需要]减缓其中一些模仿模型。”[30]

 

Yet while OpenAI is crying “foul”, they are already embroiled in copyright lawsuits in many countries. A huge “landmark” lawsuit was filed in India by the Indian News Agency ANI back in 2024, who accused OpenAI of improperly using copyrighted content. [31] “They have scraped and used copyrighted material from all the news websites without permission.” Several other major news websites in India have already joined the lawsuit. OpenAI is embroiled in other lawsuits as well. They are being sued by the New York Times, other NY newspapers, various authors and journalists, and all indications are that this may snowball into something huge. [32][33][34] Microsoft is being sued as well.

然而,尽管OpenAI在喊“犯规”,但他们已经卷入了许多国家的版权诉讼。2024年,印度新闻社ANI在印度提起了一场巨大的“里程碑式”诉讼,指控OpenAI不当使用受版权保护的内容。[31]“他们未经许可从所有新闻网站上抓取和使用受版权保护的材料。”印度其他几家主要新闻网站已经加入了诉讼。OpenAI也卷入了其他诉讼。他们正被《纽约时报》、其他纽约报纸、各种作家和记者起诉,所有迹象都表明,这可能会滚雪球般地变成一件大事。[32][33][34]微软也被起诉。

 

OpenAI’s troubles are just beginning. They issued a press release saying they might have to totally withdraw ChatGPT from Europe, because of their privacy and copyright infringements. This is so serious for OpenAI that “persons” in the UK are floating new legislation to make this particular kind of copyright violation “legal”. If you or I copy something from a website without permission, we might be bankrupted or even go to prison, but if the large tech companies steal data from millions of websites, that somehow becomes praiseworthy and deserving of immunity. [35]

OpenAI的麻烦才刚刚开始。他们发布了一份新闻稿,称由于侵犯隐私和版权,他们可能不得不从欧洲完全撤回ChatGPT。这对OpenAI来说是如此严重,以至于英国的“个人”正在提出新的立法,使这种特殊的侵犯版权行为“合法”。如果你或我未经许可从网站上复制内容,我们可能会破产甚至入狱,但如果大型科技公司从数百万个网站上窃取数据,这在某种程度上是值得称赞的,值得豁免。[35]

In fact, OpenAI is being sued by many groups in countries all around the world, now embroiled in multiple legal battles for everything from privacy issues, to copyright violations, to character defamation, and is even being investigated by US FTC and SEC. [36] OpenAI is being sued in Germany for unlicensed use of song lyrics. [37] The list goes on.

事实上,OpenAI正在被世界各国的许多团体起诉,现在卷入了从隐私问题到侵犯版权,再到诽谤角色的多起法律纠纷,甚至正在接受美国联邦贸易委员会和美国证券交易委员会的调查。[36]OpenAI在德国因未经许可使用歌词而被起诉。[37]名单还在继续。

 

然后是中情局的网络攻击 — Then the CIA Cyber-Attacks . . .

 

The US government, perhaps abetted by its friends in OpenAI, immediately launched massive and protracted DDOS and other cyber-attacks on DeepSeek…

美国政府,也许是在OpenAI的朋友的怂恿下,立即对DeepSeek发起了大规模和长期的DDOS和其他网络攻击…

 

On January 28, 2025, DeepSeek announced it was limiting registrations and restricting access because its website was being subjected to massive, “large-scale and malicious” cyber-attacks from the US. [38] The reason was that American users flocked to DeepSeek’s website to download the app, making it the #1 download on both Apple’s app store and on Google.As soon as this happened, the US government, perhaps abetted by its friends in OpenAI, immediately launched massive and protracted DDOS and other cyber-attacks on DeepSeek.

2025年1月28日,DeepSeek宣布将限制注册和访问,因为其网站正遭受来自美国的大规模、“大规模和恶意”网络攻击。[38]原因是美国用户蜂拥而至DeepSeek的网站下载该应用程序,使其成为苹果应用商店和谷歌头号下载。一旦发生这种情况,美国政府可能在OpenAI朋友的怂恿下,立即对DeepSeek发起了大规模和长期的DDOS和其他网络攻击。

 

Another article said, “DeepSeek is restricting registrations and limiting who can log into its website, allowing only China-based phone numbers, because of large-scale and malicious cyber-attacks. These attacks on DeepSeek add to the intrigue.” [39] It was interesting to see that DeepSeek must have been expecting this response, and had the technical skill to combat it. Their website was never forced off-line; they simply found it necessary to reduce new registrations. Well-done, China.

另一篇文章说:“由于大规模和恶意的网络攻击,DeepSeek正在限制注册和限制登录其网站的人,只允许使用中国的电话号码。这些对DeepSeek的攻击增加了阴谋。”[39]有趣的是,DeepSeek一定预料到了这种反应,并且有技术能力应对。他们的网站从未被迫离线;他们只是觉得有必要减少新的注册。干得好,中国。

 

“With great fame comes great risk. The company was hit by a cyber-attack that was so bad they had to limit registrations. The timing was suspicious and the world wasted no time in determining who was the culprit.” [40] Sky News in Australia said that DeepSeek was so popular that downloads of the app were causing their website to crash, completely ignoring the statements on their own website of the malicious cyber-attacks. [41]

“名气越大,风险越大。该公司遭受了一次网络攻击,攻击非常严重,他们不得不限制注册。机可疑,世界没有浪费时间确定谁是罪魁祸首。”澳大利亚天空新闻称,DeepSeek非常欢迎下载该应用程序导致他们的网站崩溃,完全无视他们自己网站上关于恶意网络攻击的声明。[41]

 

 

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Mr. Romanoff’s writing has been translated into 34 languages and his articles posted on more than 150 foreign-language news and politics websites in more than 30 countries, as well as more than 100 English language platforms. Larry Romanoff is a retired management consultant and businessman. He has held senior executive positions in international consulting firms, and owned an international import-export business. He has been a visiting professor at Shanghai’s Fudan University, presenting case studies in international affairs to senior EMBA classes. Mr. Romanoff lives in Shanghai and is currently writing a series of ten books generally related to China and the West. He is one of the contributing authors to Cynthia McKinney’s new anthology ‘When China Sneezes’. (Chap. 2 — Dealing with Demons).

罗曼诺夫的文章已被翻译成34 种语言,并在30多个国家的150多个外语新闻和政治网站以及100多个英语平台上发表。拉里·罗曼诺夫是一位退休的管理顾问和商人。他曾在国际咨询公司担任高级管理职务,并拥有国际进出口业务。他一直是上海复旦大学的客座教授,为高级EMBA课程提供国际事务案例研究。罗曼诺夫先生住在上海,目前正在写一系列与中国和西方有关的十本书。他是辛西娅·麦金尼(Cynthia McKinney)新选集《当中国打喷嚏》(When China Sneeze)的特约作者之一。第二章——对付恶魔

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NOTES

 

[1] How China’s new AI model DeepSeek is threatening U.S. dominance

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/24/how-chinas-new-ai-model-deepseek-is-threatening-us-dominance.html

[2] China’s DeepSeek AI Moves the Capital of Tech from Palo Alto to Hangzhou

https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/chinas-deepseek-ai-moves-the-capital-of-tech-from-palo-alto-to-hangzhou/

[3] Why everyone in AI is freaking out about DeepSeek

[4] AI video

https://www.douyin.com/video/7464439238818385186

[5] Interview

https://www.douyin.com/video/7464665030865243451

[6] Hundreds of new models already

https://www.douyin.com/video/7465392756186254632

[7] Fortune 500 companies are maybe going to Deepseek

https://www.douyin.com/video/7466154959046774031

[8] Indian News Anchor

https://www.douyin.com/video/7465599297011174710

[9] Biggest one day stock drop. Nvidia biggest in history

https://www.douyin.com/video/7464850962012753152

[10] Interview

https://www.douyin.com/video/7464665030865243451

[11] Security risk and theft

https://www.douyin.com/video/7466356079782399267

[12] Commentary

https://www.douyin.com/video/7466124155751107859

[13] Biased view

https://www.douyin.com/video/7464781890348797184

[14] Wang Interview

https://www.douyin.com/video/7464439238818385186

[15] DeepSeek is Lying

https://www.douyin.com/video/7465193513030798632

[16] Elon Musk says Deepseek lying

https://www.douyin.com/video/7464889659298974986

[17] Reasoning

https://www.douyin.com/video/7464856751351844106

[18] Deep seek Psy-op

https://www.douyin.com/video/7464679744240422203

[19] Wang Interview

https://www.douyin.com/video/7464439238818385186

[20] More opinion

https://www.douyin.com/video/7464561079587310885

[21] Investors

https://www.douyin.com/video/7466117741838109964

[22] Viable solution for lower end

https://www.douyin.com/video/7466054808114416911

[23] Lies, accusations

https://www.douyin.com/video/7465312313210359080

[24] Biased view

https://www.douyin.com/video/7464781890348797184

[25] DeepSeek is Telling the Truth

https://www.douyin.com/video/7465040429461900580

[26] Nvidia selloff

https://www.douyin.com/video/7464767993176689971

[27] OpenAI pulled a fast one

https://www.douyin.com/video/7465933245880831267

[28] Security risk and theft

https://www.douyin.com/video/7466356079782399267

[29] Copycat model

https://www.douyin.com/video/7465318338038730018

[30] DeepSeek used OpenAI’s model to train its competitor using ‘distillation,’ White House AI czar says

https://fortune.com/2025/01/29/deepseek-openais-what-is-distillation-david-sacks/

[31] OpenAI faces landmark copyright infringement

https://legal.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/litigation/openai-faces-landmark-copyright-infringement-case-in-india-legal-experts-weighs-in/117782660

[32] ‘The New York Times’ takes OpenAI to court. ChatGPT’s future could be on the line

https://www.npr.org/2025/01/14/nx-s1-5258952/new-york-times-openai-microsoft

[33] The New York Times sues OpenAI and Microsoft for using its stories to train chatbots

https://apnews.com/article/nyt-new-york-times-openai-microsoft-6ea53a8ad3efa06ee4643b697df0ba57

[34] Sarah Silverman sues OpenAI and Meta alleging copyright infringement

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/10/tech/sarah-silverman-openai-meta-lawsuit/index.html

[35] The irony of stealing

https://www.douyin.com/video/7466774155384360227

[36] ChatGPT maker OpenAI, valued at $157bn, sued by GEMA in Germany over unlicensed use of song lyrics

https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/openai-sued-by-gema-in-germany-for-unlicensed-use-of-song-lyrics/

[37] Legal Challenges Surround OpenAI: A Closer Look at the Lawsuits

https://analyticsindiamag.com/ai-trends/all-the-lawsuits-filed-against-openai/

[38] Videos Deepseek

https://www.douyin.com/video/7464779585578650895

[39] Cyber-Attack

https://www.douyin.com/video/7464779585578650895

[40] Indian News Anchor

https://www.douyin.com/video/7465336499320392999

[41] SkyNewsLies

https://www.douyin.com/video/7464855769477893434

 

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